Jumped ball coming back on to the table

     Snooker is playing 8-Ball, shooting an object ball in his usual manner, poorly, and the object ball bounces up on the rail, but returns to the bed of the table because the object ball came in contact with a piece of chalk. Carom calls a foul. Snooker responds that the ball returned to the bed of the table and it is not a foul. You make the call!!!! 


Poor Snooker, he is wrong in this case. The appropriate rule is not found in the 8-ball rules. One must look in the General Definitions of Pocket


Billiards, in this case - Number 11:


“Balls may bounce on the cushion tops and rails of the table in play without being jumped balls if they return to the bed of the table under their own power and without touching anything not a part of the table. The table shall consist of the permanent part of the table proper. (Balls that strike or touch anything not a part of the table, such as the light fixture, call pocket disc, chalk on the rails and chalk on the wood cushion tops, shall be considered jumped balls even though they might return to the bed of the table after contacting items which are not parts of the table proper).”


It is a foul and loss of turn, Carom has ball in hand, and the object ball is spotted since it is considered to be a “jumped ball”. See PLAY. Rule E. 5..


Fred A. Johnson

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